DAGs, lecture 2, part 4

DAGs, lecture 2, part 4

by Jean Digitale -
Number of replies: 2

Slide 18, prevalent users bias: in this DAG, X affects both the event prior to time 0 and the event after time 0. Thus, is this like slides 21/22 where this type of prevalent users bias only causes bias under the non-null? (Under the null, no collider exists). Here would both event rates and effect estimates be unbiased?

Slide 21, immortal time bias: this DAG and Maria's description seem to match Hernan's explanation of emulation failure 3 (where time 0 is set before eligibility and treatment assignment but is equal between groups). Is this also the DAG for emulation failure 4? One could argue that meeting Hernan's example of the "three aspirin prescription" exposure definition happens at the end of the immortal period, and is therefore temporally after any event during the immortal period (and couldn't be a cause of it). Are we assuming that prescription 1 of aspirin affects events during the immortal period, and that prescription 2 affects events during the immortal period, etc? Or that just requiring that they have three prescriptions influences selection but this is not mediated by events in the immortal period? I was hoping for clarity on the DAG for this type of emulation failure. Hernan also notes this type of immortal time bias could be selection bias or misclassification.

In reply to Jean Digitale

Re: DAGs, lecture 2, part 4

by June Chan -

Hi Jean, 

Thank you for your thoughtful questions. Please note, Slides 16-22 of Lecture 2, part 4 were purposely labelled as "Extra Slides" bc Dr. Glymour will revisit and expand on these during her DAG's lecture on 2/7. I've also cc'd her on the exchanges the TA's and I have had about your questions, so she has a head's up.

In the meanwhile, please see comments from me and the TA's below (your questions italicized).

Best wishes.

JMC


Slide 18, prevalent users bias: in this DAG, X affects both the event prior to time 0 and the event after time 0. Thus, is this like slides 21/22 where this type of prevalent users bias only causes bias under the non-null? (Under the null, no collider exists). Here would both event rates and effect estimates be unbiased?


Comment: Yes, this only causes bias only under the non-null, like Slide 22. Under the null, where X doesn’t affect the event neither prior nor after T0, there is no collider bias and the effect estimate is not biased. The descriptive measures (rates in exposed and unexposed) though will be incorrect (as mentioned on slide 22. 

Under the non-null both (rates and effect estimates) would be biased.


Slide 21, immortal time bias: this DAG and Maria's description seem to match Hernan's explanation of emulation failure 3 (where time 0 is set before eligibility and treatment assignment but is equal between groups). Is this also the DAG for emulation failure 4? 

CommentI agree that Emulation failure 3 aligns with slide 21. For emulation failure 4, please see comment at end.  

One could argue that meeting Hernan's example of the "three aspirin prescription" exposure definition happens at the end of the immortal period, and is therefore temporally after any event during the immortal period (and couldn't be a cause of it). Are we assuming that prescription 1 of aspirin affects events during the immortal period, and that prescription 2 affects events during the immortal period, etc? Or that just requiring that they have three prescriptions influences selection but this is not mediated by events in the immortal period? 

Comment: I think we are only requiring the latter for the bias to occur - that requiring they have 3 prescriptions in 1 yr leads to bias… I think if having 1 Rx influences the event rate during immortal PT that makes the situation more complex, but is not necessary for there to be bias. Either scenario could lead to bias, but we were referring to the simpler one – that requiring 3 prescriptions in 1 year means that to be exposed you must live at least 1 year. 

I was hoping for clarity on the DAG for this type of emulation failure. Hernan also notes this type of immortal time bias could be selection bias or misclassification.

Comment:  I agree, this type of Immortal PT bias also seems like a flavor of selection bias.

You have raised good questions. Last year, I asked Miguel Hernan for example DAG’s for emulation 3 and 4, and he responded with: “I have not yet been able to find a satisfying way to represent Failures 3 and 4, which is why DAGs were not included in the J Clin Epidemiol paper…” When I asked Dr. Glymour her opinion, she provided the slides which I’ve included as “extras”, which the caveat that she did not recall seeing anyone show DAG’s for immortal person time bias before, and the qualifier that these DAG’s were just first passes, and she welcomed feedback.

This is part of the reason for why I put these slides under “extra”s – as I consider these more as starting points for discussing how to graphically display/discuss immortal person time bias, and Dr. Glymour will discuss this further in her lecture.

Hope that helps!


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Re: DAGs, lecture 2, part 4

by Monica Ospina Romero -

Dr. Glymour has kindly provided the attached DAG as a way to display emulation failure 4. She notes that this DAG represents the bias as resulting from the common cause of past events on exposure and future rates (and therefore more aligns with what we call confounding rather than collider bias/selection bias).  However, we think this is the (or a) right DAG for the situation. She may cover this further in her upcoming lecture and feel free to ask more questions about this then.